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Pakinlead
Jun 11, 2021
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Luminara trio
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Pakinlead
May 10, 2021
I've been trying to figure out how to build a similar Luminara squadrons list (and just Luminara lists in general, since she seems good but I cannot figure her out for the life of me :P ), so this thread's given me a lot to think about. @Bertie Wooster I like your squadron layout and will have to adjust mine accordingly. Part of my concern with Lumi and heavy squads is that the traditional GAR setup of generic V19s and Plo (or other Delta-7b aces) seems counterintuitive because the Jedi likely won't spend their tokens behind the tokenless Escort squads. However, Axe and/or Kickback is a pretty elegant solution to this that I didn't consider, so thank you!! It does also mean that Plo's value goes down unless he's flying support for your Y-Wings, however. I do agree with @KaptajnBlodpolse about the Venator to a point. If the GAR is bringing heavy squads, odds are the chain-Salvo Venator won't be able to Salvo squadrons that often. I think keeping it a Salvo gunship could work out well and am prepared to eat my hat, but I would think the Salvo Venator would be only able to brutalize enemy ships (bear in mind I have zero experience flying the Venator). Maybe the Acc should be getting some heavier squadron support like Flight Controllers to more quickly clear out enemy squads if the Venator will stay a Salvo ship. @Bertie Wooster About taking Advanced Gunnery. In my opinion, your opponent stands to gain a lot more from AdvGun than your fleet would, since GAR ship fronts are a little lackluster. Is it so you can double-flak? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
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The Separatist Squadron Nicknaming Thread
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KaptajnBlodpolse's Meme Thread
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Thermal Shields Faction Lock
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Pakinlead
Apr 17, 2021
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Happy Friday!
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The Moralo Problem
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Pakinlead
Apr 08, 2021
@Bertie Wooster Congratulations on competing in VWC2021! I have neither the competence nor the confidence to attempt such a thing. :) I like the list too! I've never seen a ship- & squad-killing SSD before, and I like the double support Raiders. It's a cool build! Your explanation makes sense to me, and I agree with your points that Moralo is both unforgiving on slip-ups and difficult to balance thanks to the multitude of ways to get more and more activations. It's a weird juggling act: high skill floor, but when he works, he does work. The point I was trying to make and didn't phrase well enough is that parts of the discourse I've heard around Moralo being a major issue is that Moralo made RealVeers' winning list, well, win. And I disagree. RealVeers had a lot of strong and more consistent components in his list like you mentioned above, e.g. Squall, Maarek & Mauler. Singling out Moralo seems strange, but I'd guess that it's a result of AngryEwok's...particular phrasing in belittlement of specifically Moralo and by extension RealVeers' close yet impressive win. I kind of think this thread is a result of Ewok's intense dislike of "unrealistic" multiple activations (he's expressed his disdain for people using squadron Ahsoka, and I do not really think she's even in the same ballpark as Moralo. Heck, I normally consider Ahsoka as one of the less powerful Delta-7b aces, and I've used her alongside FCT) in a game about plastic starships carrying along space wizards. Still, I don't hate that this thread is here. Moralo is problematic game design and has now been shown that he can be problematic in the right hands. But he isn't illegal to use, nor is he dishonorable (unless you're specifically playing Moralo so your opponent misses their bus or something :P ).
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The Moralo Problem
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Pakinlead
Apr 07, 2021
@Bertie Wooster I agree with you that Moralo alone is not what makes RealVeers' and Tokra's lists so good. Out of all the noise that the VWC2021 final brought on, I have not seen anyone mention BigPoppaPalpatine's list, which had 7 deployments, an 18-pt bid, Moralo, 2 Lambdas, a focus on killing squads that could disrupt the plan, and 4 Fighter Coordination Teams, all on Squadron 2 ships. BigPoppaPalpatine finished 31st and was arguably more focused on utilizing Moralo's ability and Strategic than RealVeers'. (This is not meant to disparage BigPoppaPalpatine on his finish. Congrats on Top 36 and on the unique list!) Moralo does need a change, yes, but as RealVeers noted in his talk with IrishMadCat, his list could perform well going first or second and with or without objective tokens. Tokra proved that in Worlds 2019 with a functionally similar list, and 187-Leon performed very well with a variant of that as well. Moralo was there to make it stronger. I don't know if we'd ever see much of a change to any of the cards that make this list tick outside of points changes, especially with Aflac/MechaMauler (Phlac-Arphocc) and the Triumphant Venator title confirming that Mauler and Centicore effects will be staying around, for better or worse. Sloane is strong, but I think @The Jabbawookiee is right; MMJ will be ubiquitous with or without her. Only the specialized squadrons that already underperform in the face of all-rounders and better flak will take the hit. And if MMJ takes a major hit, say, by rewriting Maarek's ability or changing Jendon to something like squadron Ahsoka or new Yavaris, then Empire loses out on basically the only multi-role core in the faction, so something would have to be done to fill that void.
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