@Chamberlin I think it's this weekend? It would make sense to run it alongside their miniatures event weekend, but some warning would have been appreciated! Would also help if the specific dates were given!

@Truthiness I share your optimism, and I'm very happy to hear others are seeing success with mid-range squadron investments. I also agree AMG should implement point adjustments as things condense. However, I disagree that ace costs should generally go down. People are filling their four ace slots more often than not, which seems to indicate aces as a whole are undercosted. While 1.5 did limit everyone to four aces, it didn't address why everyone wanted to bring as many as they could in the first place. Of course, there are still a couple truly horrendous aces out there.

I've had some time to stew on this list, as well as pick apart what might be it's achilles heel. I think the MC75 is just too tempting a target for a large bomber wing to chew apart. Without access to the campaign aces, any fighter coverage group I build won't be as efficient as I would like. Furthermore, a third nebulon seems to get crowded out next to it's two brothers. With that in mind, I decided to go for something unorthodox. I've converted a neb into a support TRC90, traded Jan for mass y-wings, and turned the MC75 into a flak machine. I could never stop my opponent from bombing the MC75 without a large squadron investment, but with this I can certainly punish them for it. Plus, mass y-wings could really hurt the odd squadronless build I run into. Nebs + MC75 anchor V2 Faction: Rebel Alliance Commander: Kyrsta Agate (com) Points: 400/400 Assault Objective: Surprise Attack Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory [ flagship ] MC75 Armored Cruiser (104 points) - Kyrsta Agate (com) ( 20 points) - Walex Blissex ( 5 points) - Ruthless Strategists ( 4 points) - Advanced Transponder Net ( 5 points) - Early Warning System ( 7 points) - Leading Shots ( 6 points) - Ordnance Pods ( 3 points) = 154 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Salvation ( 7 points) - Skilled First Officer ( 1 points) - Auxiliary Shields Team ( 3 points) - Linked Turbolaser Towers ( 7 points) = 69 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Auxiliary Shields Team ( 3 points) - Linked Turbolaser Towers ( 7 points) = 61 total ship cost CR90 Corvette A (44 points) - Tantive IV ( 3 points) - Hondo Ohnaka ( 2 points) - Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points) = 56 total ship cost 6 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 60 points) = 60 total squadron cost

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. As somebody who could never justify purchasing the campaign expansions just for the aces, I've always felt the pain of being unable to field Biggs, Shara, or Norra.

Fair point I suppose. I always felt like R2-D2 would be a good candidate for a unique support crew. Now that I think about it, couldn't those three characters be released as dual faction rebel/republic upgrades?

Rewrote the list with more of a central anchor. At this point it's pretty much departed from the original concept of using Garm with all three Neb titles and a fleet command, but this is probably more competitive. I'll keep the original around if I feel like using a more unconventional list. Nebs + MC75 anchor Faction: Rebel Alliance Commander: Kyrsta Agate (com) Points: 400/400 Assault Objective: Surprise Attack Defense Objective: Contested Outpost Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory [ flagship ] MC75 Armored Cruiser (104 points) - Kyrsta Agate (com) ( 20 points) - Walex Blissex ( 5 points) - Early Warning System ( 7 points) - Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points) - Leading Shots ( 6 points) - External Racks ( 4 points) = 151 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Salvation ( 7 points) - Skilled First Officer ( 1 points) - Auxiliary Shields Team ( 3 points) - Linked Turbolaser Towers ( 7 points) = 69 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Auxiliary Shields Team ( 3 points) - Linked Turbolaser Towers ( 7 points) = 61 total ship cost Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points) - Auxiliary Shields Team ( 3 points) - Linked Turbolaser Towers ( 7 points) = 61 total ship cost 1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 3 X-Wing Squadrons ( 39 points) = 58 total squadron cost

I actually think Garm works out just fine on this list. With four command 2 ships and a flotilla, he still generates 9 command tokens in a turn. That's the same amount as three large ships. Furthermore, more of those tokens are the ones that you really need, not just ones that would be nice to have. The problem with Leia is that she's just far too restrictive. I really tried to make her work before, far longer than I should have, and the inability to resolve her effect and spend other tokens is far more of a handicap than I initially expected. You end up forced to either hamstring yourself to make use of her, or you disregard her expensive ability for that activation. If you chose the correct turns to use Garm, and have some other minor token manipulation like Ahsoka or Hondo, you essentially have the same benefit as Leia without the multiple commands restriction.

@sasska It's always fun to see fan-made cards. That one looks really high quality, almost like FFG made it themselves. Seems a little over costed to me, hopefully if/when AMG makes an official Redemption card it will be a little better.

I have tried QBT on a similar list using Hammerheads back before we knew how utterly terrible Admiral Leia was, and I have to say I'm not a fan. From my experience, if you use QBTs en-masse your opponent will simply match your speed to avoid it. Yes, that does mean you control their speed somewhat, but if you're using three QBTs that comes at a cost of 18 points that give you no other benefit. Not a great trade, in my opinion. I think QBTs work better on only one ship in a fleet, so that your opponent has a harder decision to make regarding speed, and you don't have all your eggs in one basket. I agree that Yavaris feels like a strange inclusion. Originally I used an Assault Pelta with ER instead of the Command with DC, in which case Yavaris served as the carrier. However I felt like a Command Pelta was a more reliable choice, and in retrospect that makes Yavaris a bit redundant. Although, with the Pelta using Engineering Commands to provide shields to the other Nebs, Yavaris could pick up the carrier role... Bah, I'm thinking in circles now. Maybe just strip the Yavaris Title, upgrade HFZ to LTT, and add Ahsoka to the list?

Yes, I was joking. Whoever invents a dedicated sarcasm font deserves the Nobel Peace Prize

@Silverback Jedi I'm pretty sure they never added that title to the game. Otherwise, I would want to include it in almost every list I make. I'm positive they never did though.

I agree Biggs and Shara would be a more efficient squadron screen for the list, but unfortunately without the campaign expansions I don't have access to those cards. Would have been great if they were included in the upgrade card box, but alas... As for slimming down the Nebs, when I was crafting this list I wanted to make use of the three Neb titles as the central theme. Not exactly meta-breaking I know, but I want to give it a shot. Unfortunately, this does tend to make the Nebs balloon a bit. If I wanted to really optimize this list I would probably rewrite it entirely by building around a MC75 anchor, then add only two Nebs as flankers. For this one however, I wanted the Nebs to be the centerpiece, which unfortunately required some heavy point investment. Running some dice simulations, the front arcs of Salvation and Vanguard can pack a surprising punch. We'll have to see how it performs. Hopefully I can get a game in tomorrow. It's a shame they never made a title for that medical frigate Luke got his cybernetic hand on. The Redemption is the poster child of my favorite star wars ship. I wonder why they never made a title card for it, it seems like it should have been the first one they made. It probably would have been a great support upgrade, which would have fit perfectly in this list. Oh well.

I'm not sure who is supposed to have the "Negative Play Experience", you or your opponent Congrats on making a beautifully cursed fleet build